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Episode 2: Pamela Nelson

Pamela Nelson is a Dallas-based artist who uses pattern, rhythm and repetition to make brightly colored pieces that draw inspiration from textiles from around the world. A native Texan, Pamela completed her BFA at Southern Methodist University. In addition to exhibitions in more than 100 venues, her commissions can be seen at some of Dallas’ highest trafficked destinations, including DFW International Airport, the George W. Bush Presidential Library and NorthPark Center. Pamela has a long history of service to the arts, including co-founding the Stewpot Open Art Program for the homeless in Dallas and ten years of service as Vice-Chair of the U.S. Commission of Fine Arts, the agency that reviews proposed designs for memorials in our nation’s capitol. Among her many recognitions, Pamela received the Legends Award from the Dallas Contemporary in 2000. She is currently represented by Craighead Green Gallery in Dallas.

I recently sat down with Pamela at her studio in a converted apartment off of Turtle Creek where we discussed her childhood in Dallas, her grandmother’s influence, the challenges of commissions, the universal language of art, the importance of family and the menagerie of places where she has tried to set up a studio.

Website: pamelahnelson.com

Instagram: @pamelanlsn

Episode 1: Steven Charles

Steven Charles is a British-born artist who recently returned to Dallas after twenty years in New York. He received his BFA in Painting from the University of North Texas and his MFA from Temple University. During his time in New York, Steven was the recipient of both a Pollock-Krasner Foundation Grant and an Artist’s Fellowship from the New York Foundation for the Arts. In addition, he has repeatedly served as a guest lecturer at the School of the Visual Arts in New York. After selling out his first solo shows in Brooklyn, Steven was added to the roster at Marlborough Gallery in Chelsea where he was part of multiple group and solo exhibitions over the course of a decade. His work has been reviewed in many of the art world’s top publications, including the Los Angeles Times, The New York Times, and Art in America. He is currently represented by Cris Worley Fine Arts in Dallas.

I recently sat down with Steven in his Dallas studio where we discussed his childhood in Liverpool, adjusting to life in Texas, blue-collar work ethic, formative years studying art in Rome, sold-out shows, black town cars, reaction-based art process and trying to live a life without regrets.

Instagram: @stevencharlesstudio


I’m Craig Gould and this is Outside of New York, a series of in-depth discussions with members of the art world who live and work outside of New York.

Look, you and I both know that New York is the seat of power in the world of contemporary art. It has been since World War II, the rise of abstract expressionism, Peggy Guggenheim, the New York School, the Irascibles. However, the world continues to evolve. Studios in New York aren’t getting cheaper, but the ability to reach a widespread audience digitally has never been easier. So, how can a serious artist make it outside of New York? Why would you want to? What are the trade offs? Outside of New York seeks to find those answers while introducing you to the real people, the genuinely talented and creative people that make up the tribe of artists and art professionals West of the Hudson. Instead of dragging you through a painfully academic art critique, each conversation on Outside of New York will dive more into the artist’s journey and his or her personality. Where did you grow up? When did you realize you couldn’t avoid becoming an artist? Do you work in silence or jam out to The Sex Pistols? I want you the listener to be a “fly on the wall” for candid conversations about what it means to live and work in the art world outside of New York.

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